Turin DF 64 compared with Mazzer Super Jolly

 

 

 

 

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hey good morning this is barrett
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i wanted to start looking at a couple
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different grinders
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and i figured the first one that i would
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start with is
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the mazer super jolly it's been a
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classic
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for decades it's been used in lots of
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espresso shops all around the world
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forever it's been i would say replaced
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with a lot of the more
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automatic machines now but you can
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sometimes pick them up for a pretty good
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deal
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this is one that's obviously been
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heavily modified and restored
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so you can tell from the color and i've
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converted it to
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single dose but you'll see what i'm
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talking about here in a minute when i do
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the dosing in both
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also off to the side i have this turin
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df64
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and as i've mentioned in some other
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videos these two grinders are very
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similar
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um these the same bur size
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so i really wanted to take a deep look
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at what are the similarities and what
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are the differences in these grinders
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and see if we can even taste the
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difference
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so
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let's start off by weighing out some
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beans
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i'm gonna use this dosing cup
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we're gonna do 18 grams
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there's 18 i'll load that into the turn
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and then while i'm at it i'm going to
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load 18
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into the super jolly too
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okay
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so let's start with the turin
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and i'm actually going to
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[Applause]
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so while it's going i like to give it
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a couple pumps of the bellows
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you get a little bit of coffee grounds
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that spray out
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so let's see where we're at well my
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scale tiered let's put it in here
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and i was at 17.9 before we're at 17.8
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right now
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pretty much to be expected there's a
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little bit of transfer
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so i'm going to brew this shot real
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quick
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let's get this cooling flush
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i'm actually going to try to lay this
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out
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it's getting close
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so this is amazing it's always hard to
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show a cup of coffee
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without taking the camera down so
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there's the turin
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it looks fantastic so
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let's do the same thing with the super
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jolly
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and i'm going to try to keep this teared
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out this time
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and you'll see how it's kind of more of
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a mess
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this is the first step of grinding with
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this grinder
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i did convert it to doseless but
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if you had the dosing mechanism on the
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side you'd be
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still doing this so i like to brush out
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the neck
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brush it all down turn it on one more
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time get one more poof
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and you can tell i mean it's not bad but
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it's kind of a mess
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and let's see how much we got out
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so i put 18 in and we're at 17.2
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so there's quite a bit that gets stuck
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in there
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normally i would dose a little bit
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heavier but i'm looking at how much does
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it retain
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the puck definitely doesn't look quite
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as smooth
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on this one and i have more mess
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around the edge
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let's
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a little bit faster because we didn't
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have quite as many grounds
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it's quite a bit faster
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so there's the same volume that one took
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almost 30 seconds this one took about
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20.
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and
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i'm going to try to bring the camera up
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now the creme on this one settled a
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little bit so it looks like it's a
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little bit less but
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it was originally the same so you can
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tell there's a little bit difference
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this is the turn this is the super jolly
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now granted they could be dialed in
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slightly different
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than each other i felt like they were
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pretty much dialed in the same
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i think if this one had that extra half
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a gram that would have helped it a lot
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so let's do a quick taste test
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first the turn
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very rich this has that very rich
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caramel burnt spices
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this is very good
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let's try the zebra jolly
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totally different it's
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a little bit more astringent but yet not
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bad i still think
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maybe go down a setting on the super
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jelly to try to do it side by side but
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i really felt like they were dialed in
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about the same
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i would probably recommend doing
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the true 18 grams out of each and
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brewing the shot again
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and seeing if i can really taste a
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bigger difference
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but overall they have the same burrs
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they grind in about the same amount of
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time
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they're both a little bit of a mess you
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can see the mess
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and obviously the super jolly is a lot
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messier i mean it's a shop grinder
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i don't have the grounds tray in the
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front right now
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but that's probably my first real
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side-by-side test of this touring
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grinder and
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overall i mean it's outperforming the
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super jolly so far
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and i kind of like the bellows more than
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i want to admit
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but let me know what you think down in
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the comments