Turin DF64 - Can it do Aeropress and V60?
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hey this is bear from portakeeper
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i've had pretty busy week so i need to
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get caught up on some of the stuff that
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i want to look at on this tour and
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grinder
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and something that i tried this morning
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i did the v60 the other day
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i wasn't like wowed by it but it wasn't
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bad um
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i think it was mainly the beans a little
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bit older
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but really what i want to look at i did
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a aeropress today
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i am not the aeropress master anymore i
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used to run an airpress every day for
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quite a few years
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it was my work coffee maker i just
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really enjoy an aeropress but i had one
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of the original ones when you bought it
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on like the frisbee website
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and this gasket i believe the new one
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silicone and the original one was some
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sort of a rubber and
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it was really worn out it wouldn't even
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like you'd put it on like that and just
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kind of slide down so i just bought this
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a few days ago and i used it for the
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first time today and
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i used the turn grinder on setting
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i think i said 65 earlier i used it on
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setting 60.
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it was amazing normally i use this
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ditting grinder
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and it is just a phenomenal grinder but
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it is huge it is a lot more expensive
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so i just really want to take a look at
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what does this ditting do what does this
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turn do and i also have some v60 so i'm
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going to try to put it all in one video
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real quick
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so i think the first thing i want to do
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is just look at
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where this didn't comes out in terms of
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like grinds
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it grinds very fast as 80 something
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millimeter
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burrs i have this little cup that i like
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to use
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so i usually run it on the filter paper
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setting for a v60
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and probably hard to see let's see you
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can kind of see in there
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and let's put it to the side
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i'm probably just going to leave it in
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the cup i know i actually was a little
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bit finer
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earlier this morning on this turn so
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what i'm going to do real quick
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is i'm going to grind this couple
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grounds to this turn
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and i think i'm actually going to up it
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to about 65
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and i'm just going to feel the
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difference between these two
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so yeah i think we're about the same
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honestly
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let me put them side by side and do it
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quick
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just roll through my fingers
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i think they're both very good they're
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they're fairly coarse i mean this turn
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it goes
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from 0 to 90 on the settings and i have
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it on 65
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right now this ditting is pretty much
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right in the middle filter paper is like
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a setting five
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and it goes to a nine as well
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so from zero well maybe it goes to a 10.
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doesn't matter so
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i'd say these are fairly close to the
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same i'd say let's prep
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a v60 real quick and i'm actually going
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to
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use this good brother's coffee i have
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this ethiopian
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marmalade honey lemon it's kind of a
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light to medium
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washed it's pretty freshly roast i mean
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it's it's sat for a week so
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it should be about perfect so let's take
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a look at that
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so i set up my kind of scale and i'm
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really not going to get too crazy on
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brew ratios i kind of know what i like
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from a brew ratio standpoint i think i'm
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going to leave this on 65 for both of
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these
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but i'm going to use i think i'm going
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to use 22 grams in the v60
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[Music]
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and i'll probably end up using 20 grams
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in the
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[Music]
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[Music]
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aeropress
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so here's 22. we're going to throw this
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in
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and we're going to start prepping
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our v60 real quick let's put that up
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there
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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so real quick this is one thing that i
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am going to complain about on the turin
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it's not just a turn problem i've even
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had it on this ditting
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but i noticed whatever i put my ditting
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on like if i had it on more of a plastic
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surface like i had a
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one of those plastic folding tables
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where i had it off in
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a workshop for a little while and i got
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a lot more static when it was on that
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plastic table
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this is on a nice wood surface it's it's
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grounded nice
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you didn't have any static with this
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this definitely has a lot more static
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going on
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so that is one thing that is an issue
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for me
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now is it the end of the world no not
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really it's just a mess
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i want to look into a small spray bottle
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some of these grinders they come with a
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small spray bottle
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there's like the chopstick method where
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you use this like a wooden or a bamboo
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chopstick get it wet
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and put it in your bean cup and just get
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that little bit of moisture on the beans
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so for now i'm just going to
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rinse this filter
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and get this prepped let's dump this
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over here
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and then i am going to do 20 grams for
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the air press
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on the same grind setting let's let's
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just get this out
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so i did this this morning on a little
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bit darker beans on the airpress and
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i usually don't drink darker beans
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but god it just turned out so good it
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was just phenomenal
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[Music]
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i don't want to admit that this turns as
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good as it
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is
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[Music]
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so there's 20 grams i'm a little rusty i
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forget about how much i used to use
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i did 20 grams this morning turned out
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great
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and i diluted it a little bit
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[Music]
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i'm not used to this single dose stuff
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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so we have our mess just all over
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[Music]
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but just like our portafilter
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i showed you all the other day those
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dosing cups fit
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perfectly in this portafilter and i'm
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pretty sure these guys at aeropress i
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mean
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they know what they're doing if it's on
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the airpress perfect
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so i mean that's pretty handy with this
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dosing cup it's
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it's a cheap piece of plastic nothing
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too fancy to it but
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i love this thing even if i didn't end
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this grinder i think i'd probably try to
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find something about like that so
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[Music]
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i am going to throw some water in this
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let's start with the v60
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and i'm gonna do about 320 grams of
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water total again this is the kettle i
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haven't upgraded yet this is the kettle
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that i don't like my good one it's kind
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of crapped out on me
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but we're gonna let it bloom hopefully
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didn't get too boring watching this but
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we'll see what happens
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actually while we're at it just to speed
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things up let's get the air press going
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so what i like to do is give it a little
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bloom i don't think it really makes that
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big of a deal on an airpress but
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i usually fill it up just below the two
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and i like to do this at about 60 to 80
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for the bloom
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[Music]
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i took it up to about 200.
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[Music]
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so this is probably fairly bloomed out i
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mean
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it could go a little bit longer but
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let's just top it off
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because what i hate on the airpress is
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eventually it starts dripping through
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that filter whether you like it or not
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i should be weighing this but it's
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pretty easy to go out volume on that
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so we're at 200 i'm going to top this
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off to the 325.
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went a little over
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and i usually let this go a minute
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god i really don't know what i did on
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the airpress in the past
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i need to look that up has this been so
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long i haven't used one
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in over a year but i've been using the
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v60 been very happy with the v60 such a
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simple
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brewing method i've been getting very
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complex notes out of it
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[Music]
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so
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so i didn't stir it i probably should
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have stirred it
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but let's just give it a quick press i
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don't like to go real hard
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as like a nice and easy press
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our v60 is finishing pretty nice over
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here
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i'm a big proponent of pushing through
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all the hiss
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i don't know why i always have though
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i kind of like that espresso puck
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to it so i don't know what you all like
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to do normally
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i usually top mine off this isn't quite
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a cup of coffee in my opinion
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it's close but i like to give a little
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bit of dilution not a whole lot
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[Music]
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and this v60 should be about done this
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is barely dripping over here
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i might just have to put that v60 to the
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side because
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we're pretty much done there so
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from a volume standpoint two very
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similar volumes of coffee i know it's
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pretty piping hot
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it was over 200 degrees on that kettle
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but let's give it a quick sip
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this is the aeropress and that was the
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v60 so let's see if we can really taste
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the difference and let's see if this
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setting a 65 on the turn really did a
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good job
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[Music]
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very this is very good
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[Music]
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it's a little bit hot for me to really
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distinguish some of the flavors but
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this is very good it's very mellow i'm
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not getting any harsh notes
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this is very good
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[Music]
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especially for being so foreign to that
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i need to get going with that again
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so here is the v60 i'm a little bit more
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accustomed with the v60 i like doing
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this several times a week i get a little
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burnout on espresso
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just want a normal cup of coffee which
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you could say my normal cup's not
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most people's normal cup i mean using
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some nice beans nice grinders
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boys
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boy that is
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i'm really surprised
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i'm gonna do a quick side by side this
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one i feel like it's a little less
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complex with the v60 a little less
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strong which
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i mean that's not super uncommon
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the airpress seems to be a little bit
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more concentrated in my opinion but
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they were diluted about the same volume
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of coffee
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this one had a little bit more grounds
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in it just that's how i like well
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now that one had a little bit more
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grounds in it so this had less
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and it seems a little bit stronger
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[Music]
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[Music]
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i'm a little surprised even with all my
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lack of prep and everything
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didn't wash the filter now that
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that airpress is a solid
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i would say that your setting 65 is
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i mean every grinder is different every
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bean is different
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but that 65 setting i mean that's going
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to be in my head between probably 60 and
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70 for
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airpress and v60 probably even drip
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drips can be real pain because this
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cup's just not big enough for most rip
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machines
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but i'd hope you're not buying like a
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nicer grinder for that
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but it is nice to have like a small drip
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machine i'd i'd prefer con
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a chemx and use a kettle like this
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but let's give it one more test
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that was the v60 a little bit more
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brightness to it
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a little bit cleaner i think this is
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just
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i usually like a cleaner cup i think
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this has just got that little extra mud
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in it
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for some reason and that kind of brings
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the flavor through
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[Music]
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just yeah i like that aeropress we're
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not really comparing air press to b60
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what we're looking at here is can this
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turn really do
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what people are wanting it to do
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normally i run it on between setting
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13 and 16 for espresso
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i've been cranking out espresso things
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been surprising me like crazy
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very similar burrs to the super jolly
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very similar burrs to
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rocket fasso very similar burst to
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the k30 that i have really the only
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thing that's
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outperformed in my opinion would
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probably be this
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atom 75 i just feel like the birds in it
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are great
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so really hard one to beat in my opinion
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i've tried even nicer grinders than that
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and i feel like this one
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it can hold its own the ditting the
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ditting
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i think is not an espresso grinder at
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least as
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the normal dinning if you went with like
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the lab suite or something with a little
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bit different burrs i could probably
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get some really amazing espresso out of
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it i've used it for espresso
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the bruises are made for espresso the
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burs
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for v60 and aeropress it is ridiculous
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so i mean two thousand dollar grinder to
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a 600
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grinder this thing's really holding its
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own this thing's about 1500 bucks with
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the chrome 1400 and like white or black
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super jolly is a thousand
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hard for me to really complain about
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this kind of a pessimist i
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didn't think it's going to be near as
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good of what as what it is
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but really my only complaint so far is
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that it's a bit messy
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i hope you can see it in the video i
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mean there's a lot of static on this
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especially on the white body
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i'm used to it go to home depot go to
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lowe's go to menards
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ace wherever your your hardware store is
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buy a brush like this this is a
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three inch brush i have a two inch brush
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upstairs
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and
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before you know it it's clean it's not
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that big a deal
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i still think chopstick wet chopstick
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sprayer something like that you're not
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going to get that much static
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that'll probably be something that i
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look at next what can we do to reduce
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static buy a small spray bottle
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do a wet chopstick something like that
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and try to get
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the static down because when i'm doing
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espresso it's not bad
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statics i mean it just pours right out
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it pours right into your
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portafilter not a big deal here
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man i'm getting a mess but if you have a
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smart grinder pro i mean that thing is a
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disaster
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if you have a breville those things are
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just a notorious mess
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same thing with the super jolly i mean
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it's it's kind of a disastrous mess
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this thing's clean this thing's clean
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some other grinders that i've used are
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pretty clean
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this one's kind of middle of the road
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not really complaining but just
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something for y'all to
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keep in mind so can it do
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v60 and aeropress which i know a lot of
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people have been asking
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i'm going to say yes because i've used
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it against some of the better grinders
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out there
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and better beans
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beans more suited to these brews it
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really
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came through love it so if you're
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thinking about this
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i'm kind of surprised i mean i want one
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i need one in my lineup so i wouldn't
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hesitate especially for the price
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no espresso outlet they've been doing
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some introductory pricing
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it also comes in the name solo this is
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the turn
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df64 uh head over to espresso outlet i
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know he's
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he's importing quite a few so go check
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one out
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let me know if you have any more
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questions if there's anything else that
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you'd like me to see
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i know a bunch of people have asked
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compare or
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try to take the burs out of this put it
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in that because they are compatible i'll
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probably be doing that next
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check the burr alignment see if that's a
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big deal
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i'd say these are fairly well aligned
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but it's really hard to tell from just
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looking at the grounds
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and we'll do some fun stuff so make sure
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to check back
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thanks