Turin DF64 Disassembly (Solo Grinder)

 

 

 

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hey this is bear from porter keeper
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and i just got done taking apart this
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nish zero that i got today
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but fair is fair this is gonna be my
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first comparison
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between these two grinders i'm an
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engineer
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i love to see how stuff works how the
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how their engineers design
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stuff so this is something that i find a
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lot of enjoyment
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looking at and
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really i think the way that something's
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designed is maybe
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as important or more important to me
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than
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about anything i mean if it's not
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designed well it's not going to last
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well
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it's not going to perform well
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so let's just take a look so i took the
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bellows off
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and if you're not familiar i've been
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selling these
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turn rings it's something that i came up
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with
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because i was a little bit annoyed with
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the way that this little line in the
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front is supposed to line up with these
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notches you just about it you cannot see
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it at
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all i'm going to take this off real
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quick
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loosen it up
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this does not come with it it's just a
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plastic ring has a set screw in the back
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and this hole in the front lines up with
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the numbers
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so take that off and to take it apart
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you just
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spin it and i'd say that this ring is
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stiffer than the niche by far
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but you really don't want it moving
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around i don't
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i didn't see anything that would keep
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this from moving too much this one did
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seem a bit stiffer
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but this top just slides off it has your
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number indicators on top
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and then i showed you in a different
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video i'm expecting this to be a lot
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dirtier i've been using this
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pretty extensively for a couple weeks
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now
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so pretty dirty on the inside
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if you think that's bad it's really not
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that big a deal i mean
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you should be cleaning these pretty
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often and
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about any grinder of this caliber it's
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gonna retain
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some grounds and there's some transfer
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so try not to make a big mess here
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i actually have like a big bean stuck
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i'm actually a little screwdriver get
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that out there we go
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so there's the inside they're the same
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size as the mazer super jolly burrs
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and they are compatible with the model
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super jolly so that means that
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you can put the ssp burrs in you can put
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in like the
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the unimodal burrs so it gives you a lot
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of burr upgrade options these are just
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the hardened steel
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i've been very impressed shockingly
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impressed
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so on the inside i hope i know how to
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take this apart we're going to see
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because there's not much out there on it
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this is how you take apart a super jolly
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usually
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but i would not recommend doing this
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so i'm just barely sticking that into
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the chute to lock it up
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with the niche i didn't have that issue
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because it has the planetary gearbox
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so it's not going to spin on you with
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this it's just going to keep spinning
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and there's the top so it has little
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flappers built in they're a lot less
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aggressive than the niches flappers so
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the niche it all kind of pours down the
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middle and it flings it out real hard
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and that might be why it retains or they
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claim
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or retains less grounds but it just pops
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right off
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with the super jolly that can be kind of
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a task to take off
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and there's the inside
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so there's some grounds in there nice
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shiny grind chamber
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seems to be pretty high quality and a
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large
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motor underneath i'm going to try not to
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make a huge mess though
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it does retain some this does have a
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clump buster
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the the niche had one as well but it was
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just a bar
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so it's just really breaking the very
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large chunks
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this one i think it's plastic
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which isn't that uncommon
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the what is it the
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the k30 has some plastic ones so
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the k30s are replaceable turn this
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upside down
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and there is the grind chamber
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so very carefully i'm going to flip it
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and this i've already had it open i've
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not opened the top like this before
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the bottom is pretty easy to take off
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just two phillips head screws so they're
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not
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the allen head like on the niche
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i noticed different brands they seem to
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use different types of screws
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phillips heads are nice
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because about everyone has one of these
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but sometimes these give you a little
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bit more torque
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so i don't know it's not really a big
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deal at all
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let's push the screws through
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there's the internals of the turret and
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really it's the whole thing is a motor
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now one thing i'm noticing right away
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that
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i kind of didn't notice last time is
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there's no quick disconnect so like on
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the niche
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when you watch that video i'm able to
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disconnect the circuit board
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but honestly you shouldn't be in here
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so i wouldn't worry about it too much
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this is some electronics for
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the timer function so if you're not
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familiar with that this is actually just
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a momentary switch
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it's not clicking and it stays and then
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click it again and it comes back
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out it's a button so when you do it it's
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actually turning on a timer
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and the grinder at the same time but if
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you don't
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turn the grinder off within 45 seconds i
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have a video on it
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it will turn itself off so let's say
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you're coming home
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you're putting your mail or your wallet
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or something on your counter and you
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accidentally bump that and walk off
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it's not just going to sit there and run
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and run and run and run it's going to
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turn itself off
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i really like that feature
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you don't have to let it run for 45
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seconds though you can just click it
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again and it'll turn off
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so that's what that electronics does
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pretty simple
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this is the starting capacitor because
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it's a
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huge motor in comparison i mean we saw
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that niche motor and
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it was just so small i mean this thing
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is huge i mean
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it's big so i don't know if i can get
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this motor out very easily a lot of
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times they press fit these in
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so i don't think i want to try to remove
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it from this but
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that's the top of the motor
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and that's the bottom of the motor so it
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is huge
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huge motor
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one thing that i need to go grab some
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pliers for
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oh man this could be difficult
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we'll start by taking the chute off
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or this fork off i mean
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the fork removes the phillips head screw
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pretty nice i guess if you ever damaged
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this you could buy a new one
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it is aluminum i didn't know if it was
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plastic it looked a little bit flimsy at
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first
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but it also fits your portafilters
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so it fits very nice and it holds better
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than i thought
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i thought it might fall out i didn't
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even clip it in
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holds much better than i thought so i've
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been really enjoying this for
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quite a bit it also fits the dosing cup
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so pretty simple innovative idea you can
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get both
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best out of both so kind of cool
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to take this off i think i'm going to
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have to go get some pliers
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so i might have to pause this we're
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going to take these two screws out
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and see if it just comes off
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because i'm really wanting to take a
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peek at the clump buster
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i'm pretty sure it has one i was looking
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in there
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yeah i'm gonna have to get some pliers
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so i'm gonna pause this
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and i will put this video together
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okay i went and grabbed some pliers real
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quick and i don't recommend doing this
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but i've taken enough of these apart
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that i'm not too afraid you can really
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kind of damage some stuff if you're not
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careful
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but we need to remove this button and i
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don't think we're going to be able to
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remove
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the whole case without cutting some
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wires which i'm not going to do
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but i at least want to take that face
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plate off
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there we go
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a little bit awkward now in case you're
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curious this
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is aluminum all these pieces are
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aluminum
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which i didn't think they're aluminum
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when i saw the picture of it
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so this is actually an extruded aluminum
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case
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and all these other pieces like the base
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and the
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chute and this little trim ring on the
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front it's all aluminum now the spout
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itself is plastic
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but i'm not surprised by that
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this thing is going to be awkward i
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might
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i might throw some screws in it just so
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i can flip it back over
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this is unplugged fyi
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so there we go this chute is held on
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with two more phillips head screws
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and actually
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let's go
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it looks like this is actually wrapped
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in vinyl
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so i don't want to damage that
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when i remove it so there's a sheet it
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has some build up in it
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like i said i've been using this quite a
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bit recently
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let's take a closer look at
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it is just a like a membrane a plate of
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plastic that is the clump buster
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which it might not look like much but
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it's really close to like what my k30
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has so
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not uncommon to see that they do wear
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out over time but
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when you're comparing like a k30 that
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has
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tens of thousands of shots compared to
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this that's not gonna have
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maybe even a couple thousand shots i
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doubt that ever wears out
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so there is kind of an overview
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of taking this apart
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i don't think i can take yeah there's no
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screws in there taking this motor out i
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almost guarantee it is press fit in so
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it'd be a real nightmare to take the
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motor out i did it in my super jolly you
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had to bake it in the oven do all this
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stuff
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i'm not going to do that here the niche
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is pretty easy to take out
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but the motor itself in this is about
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that big i mean it's pretty big motor
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it is all aluminum even the trim plates
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the base
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this ring here is aluminum burr holders
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are aluminum
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this is aluminum really the only plastic
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on this that i've seen
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is some of these electronics and this
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chute
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and i didn't realize the sheet was
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plastic but i'm really not that
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surprised so
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let me know what you think down in the
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comments i'd like to hear your thoughts
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between
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watch the niche and watch this tell me
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what you think the internals are like
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i'm more impressed with the turn i know
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a lot of people are probably expecting
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that
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but i like big motors i like ac
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big motors that just sit there and hum i
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mean this thing it's grinding a little
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bit
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quite a bit faster about twice as fast
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as the niche i think this takes about
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eight to ten seconds where that was
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taken
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i don't know 18 to 20. so
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quite a bit faster again just let me
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know what you think
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i'd like to hear from y'all have a good
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evening