Turin DF64 VS Atom 75

 

 

 

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hey this is barrett from porter keeper
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and as you can tell my espresso bar is a
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little bit more congested than it was
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yesterday
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originally just been looking at this
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turin grinder
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but i wanted to start comparing it to
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some other grinders
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so today the two that i'm really going
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to be looking at is the turin
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versus my all-time favorite the atom 75.
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the atom actually comes in a 60
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millimeter 65 millimeter
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75 millimeter this is the 75
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i've tried a lot of grinders this one's
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hands down my favorite
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it just works it's a perfect bur size to
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not have a lot of retention
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but you still get that nice surface area
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so comparing that to the turin
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it's about 10 millimeters smaller of a
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bur in the turn
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and i'm really looking for how complex
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of a cup of coffee can i get out of them
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so i've already preluded 18 grams into
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the turn i waited out
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using my scale and on the atom
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i'm actually going to grind into the
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portafilter
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and weigh it and make sure that we have
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18 grams because i want an 18 gram to 18
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gram
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extraction i dialed both of these
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grinders in this morning
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gave them a light sweep i cleaned out
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the
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atom and pulled one shot so it's pretty
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much
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i don't have any old grounds in it we'll
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put it that way so
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let's start with the turn
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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bellows
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[Applause]
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make sure we get that full 18.
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i have my bottomless portafilter
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and i'm gonna do it
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this is a heated part of me a heat
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exchanger machine i'm going to give it a
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purge
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get all the residual heat out
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and let's pull a quick shot
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[Music]
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it's coming out the bottom real nice
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it's a little off-center
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but i didn't really do any wdt or
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anything like that i mean this is just
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straight out the grinder we have the
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dosing cup
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and we're getting that
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amazing cup of coffee i mean it's just
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amazing
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perfect shot in terms of the color that
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i'm getting out of it
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so let's give this a wipe
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[Music]
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and on the atom i think it's going to go
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a little bit
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too much for these beans so that's why i
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want to weigh it
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[Applause]
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so if it's the first shot of the day
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what i typically like to do is i have
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this set on point three seconds
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and i actually get a bump usually a
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little bit more than that
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and i'll just dump it that way i'm
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getting all the old grounds out of it
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and
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let's grind produce
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so we're at 17 let's top it off
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18 on the dot so again no wdt
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this is a straight tamp
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and let's see what happens
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[Music]
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again nice and centered looks like a
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nice even extraction
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i could maybe adjust down a hair but
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[Music]
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it was perfect this morning so
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we have two shots side by side
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let's put them like that
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[Music]
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and i am going to move the camera so
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hang on
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[Music]
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you can see this one's a little bit
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darker it's been settling for a minute
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the crim has settled
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this one will too they're fairly fresh
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beans
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some mexican beans so
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let's give it a quick taste test see
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what
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see if we can tell a difference
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[Music]
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let's start with the turn first
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smells really rich and that's one thing
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that i really like about the atom
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this thing can bring out the richness
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that i can't sometimes get out of this
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uh super jolly that well and my k30 it's
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got some fairly new burrs in it
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so it's just kind of not broken quite
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enough yet i don't think
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so it smells amazing lots of caramel
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[Music]
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very complex very rich caramelly
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got those burnt spices that i always
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kind of look for and some
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good espresso and this is pretty hot
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still
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this is the atom
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[Music]
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so what's real interesting is this one
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has a lot more
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bite to it but this one feels a lot more
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balanced so
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i don't know they're just very different
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levels of complexity
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yesterday with the super jolly it just
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wasn't near as good of a shot
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hands down this turn was outperforming
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the super jolly
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today i'm going to say that this atom
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is better than the turin but
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man i'd drink both of these cups these
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both of these cups are just amazing
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[Music]
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yeah you get a lot more of the the pit
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fruit
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a lot fruitier and this one
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exact same bean same day same everything
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except for the grinder
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[Music]
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we're getting more like that rich kind
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of like
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[Music]
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a boozy cherry or something where it has
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kind of like that
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bourbon undertone but a lot of cherry
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where you're getting some of that pit
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fruit in this too but
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this just seems to have that
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a little bit more rich
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let's give it one more try
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boy i don't know i would i'm still gonna
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go with the atom
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but i was that's a pretty hard one for
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me to say which one i actually would
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prefer
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i don't think i'd really turn either of
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these down so
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let me know if you have any more
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comments or if there's anything else
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that you'd like to see
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on these two grinders i did a review on
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the atom 75
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it's a written review uh about a month
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ago maybe
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and this is my main grinder for
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my main home use and
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the rest of the grinders i use this for
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this espresso bar in my office
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the turn you could tell today was quite
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a bit slower
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i'd have to go back and look at the
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video to see about how long it took to
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grind 18 grams
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with the atom it takes three seconds
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three seconds for 18 grams so
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those larger burs you're going to gain a
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lot of speed
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no bellows no nothing so you will have a
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little bit of retention
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like i said i like to just give it a
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bump throw it out it's really not that
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many grounds i've done the math
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per year doing two well per year it's
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about
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less than a pound of beans that i throw
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out so i throw away
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that many beans unfortunately just doing
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tests like this
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so let me know in the comments if you
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have any more questions
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the next thing i'm probably going to be
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looking at is this k30
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it has very similar size burrs to the
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turn and the super jolly they're not a
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compatible burr
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but they are almost the same size within
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one millimeter
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so very common you'll see this in
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espresso shops all over the world
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this k30 kind of took over the super
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jolly for being that
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shop grinder it's an on-demand grinder
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i'm not using bellows again
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i know it's gonna have a lot more
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retention and unlike the super jolly one
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i want to do a full 18 grams out of both
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so check back probably tomorrow and i'll
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post a video on that catch you soon