The DF64 | Dialing in Dark Roasted Coffee

 

 

 

 

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for tuesday afternoon it's about four
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o'clock on tuesday by the way the
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weather in tucson is incredible
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it's around like what upper 60s i think
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low 70s it's actually a little chilly
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okay it's unseasonably very cold it's
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beautiful out this uh this afternoon
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anyway i hope you guys having a
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wonderful tuesday so so last couple
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weeks you know i was making coffee with
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a niche uh coffee grinder a lot
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so today you know what let's spend some
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time on df64
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so i have a uh so we are going so i have
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a really dark roast right now it's more
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like the past dark it's more like oily
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coffee beans i have
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uh let's see this is single origin
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coffee
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here let me show you
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so this this uh
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my buddy brad from battleborn coffee raw
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i asked him to make me dark so
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it's a very oily
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like medium roast
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okay so this is more like medium so we
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have to play with the darker roast uh
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this afternoon really dark there very
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oily
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and it's getting really good for milk
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based drink or just purely black coffee
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as well so let's play with that okay
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hold on you know what hold on a second
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what i'm going to do is i'm just going
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to flip her over i'm just going to
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handheld here
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uh okay so this df-64 so which means a
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64 millimeter flapper let's set up here
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at some point i'm planning on upgrading
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to ssp burst set pretty soon
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but meantime i have a couple upgrades
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here
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i have the baseboard i believe this is
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about 15 degree angle there
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shout out to eduardo to hook me up with
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a base
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if you have a 3d print you can actually
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print it here at home okay
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so
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we're going to be doing what 16 gram
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okay of
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dark roasted
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it's more like you know beyond dark okay
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let's put it that way
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so let's see what we're gonna get here
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i'm just gonna start it
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i mean this is not the fastest grinder
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but works pretty good
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[Applause]
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just make sure to get everything out
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i mean if you single dose what i like to
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do is
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get the brush
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make sure you get everything out there
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okay
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now we're gonna ensure that we're gonna
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get it every coffee grinds out
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so pretty much if we put 16 grime in
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most likely we're going to get 16 out
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okay so today
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since we are playing with the darker
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roast i'm going to change temperature
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okay
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this is a break uh bravo breeze express
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uh changing temperature is not like
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easy as pro
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you have to go through some couple
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different combination okay
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hold down the power program button here
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and start the
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power button at the same time
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right now we have default temperature
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let's go down to -2
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so this is the again the program button
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is as a default temperature
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single cut button is plus two plus four
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minus two minus four so now we are at
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minus two okay i'm just gonna
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flush out
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with a puck screen
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just make sure
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everything is nice and hot okay
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all right so
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meantime
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okay
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and i'm going to uh
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i'm going to prepare the puck okay so
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hold on a second here let me show you
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how i do it
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so since i have the tools from norm core
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let me show you guys
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so i have a couple of tours i'm going to
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play with today
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this is gnome core uh spring loaded
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kind of like force temper wannabe okay
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splint loaded
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this is like the duomo eight wannabe
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okay so this is about sixty dollars
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as you know duomo 80 is like 230 dollars
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but
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so you know let's uh play with that okay
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so both of them
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got my two my
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i got the brick over there
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here i go
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look at my
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dosing funnel
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whoops
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i don't want to waste these good beans
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hold on a second here i'm just gonna
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scoop everything out
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okay
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okay here we go
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so with the
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with this double edit tool simply put on
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the top
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just go slow okay
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spin it slowly
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just go slow
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again you know what i have to say i mean
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this is not the best comes the
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distribution tool
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if you have this at home please let me
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know in the comment section okay
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let me know if you like it or not
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yeah
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yeah it's not uh
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yeah
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i wasn't impressed with it okay i'm not
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impressed with it
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but however
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this is a spring temper it works pretty
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good
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okay so i do like this one
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a very clean edge
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let's put the puck screen on the top
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you know let's pull the shot
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let's pull the shot there guys
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so we're gonna be doing uh let's do one
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to two ratio
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okay here we go
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so
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here we go i'm just gonna stir it
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hopefully i can show you guys the bottom
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but you know what we're saying
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[Music]
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[Music]
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there we go
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shot looks pretty good
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i'm shooting for around 36 ram
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about 20 second shot
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about 36
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22.
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it's not bad
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not bad isn't it guys it's not bad at
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all okay
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not bad at
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all looks good but okay so let's go back
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to the tools okay
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if you are thinking about buying known
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chord distribution tour this one
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man
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i don't know okay i'm not i'm not i'm
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not impressed with it let's put that
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away
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but however this gnome core
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spring-loaded temper
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works pretty good i have to say
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for the price
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not bad at all well-built okay so uh so
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this is a 53.3 millimeter
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precision temper so it's pretty good it
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works good
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so
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hold on a second guys let me
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flip the camera over
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i mean so i think if you uh if you guys
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are close a little closer i think you
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have a tiny bit of channeling but it
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wasn't too bad at all okay
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it wasn't too bad so
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so it does work
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it does work especially having the puck
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screen as well
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by the way the having puck screening is
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not it's not reduce the channeling but
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you're gonna have a clean uh it's a
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sharp screen and also the puck is pretty
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dry okay so let's check out the
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uh puck screen
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hold on a second
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here we go
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again so we are talking so this is
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really dark roast
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yeah
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it's not bad at all okay not bad it's
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not like muddy like whenever you're
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using dark really dark roast
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it's muddy but
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it's nice puck
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nice looking pup there
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okay so let's try the this dark
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so this is a guatemala
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let's give it a shot
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okay
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cheers uh by the way if you're new to
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what else we just just have some fun in
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the afternoon by the way make sure you
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press like on video okay got 27 of you
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are watching right now is only eight of
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us
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thumbs up come on guys
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cheers
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here we go
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ah no i'm not a big fan of
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yeah i'm not a big fan of a dark roast
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espresso but this is really good for
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if you guys are like meal place drink or
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let's say like americano it'd be
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fantastic okay it'd be fantastic but
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straight up espresso i don't know i'm
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not a yeah
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i'm not a big fan of it but still again
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uh works pretty good
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uh this
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i mean this gnome core distribution tool
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if you guys want to really
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look for wdt tool
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i prefer
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let's say hold on a second like in a 3d
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print
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personally i think 3d print is a lot
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better than this one you know what save
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your money
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and just get yourself nice 3d print
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actually no no what i'm saying is just
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save money to buying this just have your
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friends or family member has a 3d print
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there
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just i mean ask them to print one for
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you
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you can go to fingerburst so this is a
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design by john from uh let's say
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espresso fusion adder okay on discord
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and john did a fantastic job on
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designing this so he has about three
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different design
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but this one the problem with this tool
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the needle is too thick okay it's a
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really thick needle
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so it's not i mean you want to use it
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like a acupuncture needle but this is
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more like goodness i don't know what
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that is but yeah it's pretty thick
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okay
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so this one
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okay i have to
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you know if you guys really want to make
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sure get it from amazon
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so you can actually always return this
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but yeah
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this one i have some reservation okay
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but
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again spring-loaded temper not bad not
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bad at all
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anyway i'm going to big shout out to
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norm quote 2 sending me this
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and then
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to check it out but again normcore if
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you guys are watching me right now
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hopefully you guys can uh
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redesign this
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maybe thinner needle instead of this
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thick
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i know that thinner needle is is a
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little more tricky to manufacture it but
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yeah i mean if you guys can come up with
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the thinner than this one i think it
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this might work okay this might work
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let's see
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uh doc man i look like it looks cool but
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yeah it is more like more like 0.9 okay
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0.9 millimeter but i think
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you don't even like 0.4 0.3
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should be good all right
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but again
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i love the concept of it
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i think they're in the right track but
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then it's uh need to some refine it okay
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they need to refine it let's see what
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else uh the df64
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does pretty good job okay it does a
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really good job with a darker rose to
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medium roast lighter roast doesn't
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matter it does work just make sure to
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take your time to you know dialing it
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properly
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and uh did i say 0.2 is the best point
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is best
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my point is pretty
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thin though okay i think uh this one i
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have is uh this needle is about point
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three
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point four i think point two wait
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point three maybe
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i'm not sure i think this might be 0.3
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hold on a second i do have a needle
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hold on a second guys
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i'm gonna put my glasses on
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hold on
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this
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is uh 0.4
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okay
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so we use the 0.4 size for the
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destinator so 0.3 might be a little
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thinner 0.2 is really thin but i think
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0.3 is pretty good
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0.4 at
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three let's see here
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uh by the way uh
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if you have any questions or comment let
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me know i'm looking at your questions
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right now by the way i mean if you guys
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have missed my uh live streaming this
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morning uh on instagram i was talking to
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steve from akaya scale
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man it was a there's a lot of fun
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talking to him this morning so make sure
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if you are just in case you missed it
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check it out as well
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okay so marvin say uh got the cheap
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aliexpress dua mo volume two
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okay
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uh i i think uh man oh but yes uh is the
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dog man asked do we reach the 1000 gold
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yes
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uh as of yesterday we did we reached
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that goal so
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i'm going to be uh talk uh talking to
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joe from espresso outlet
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uh maybe come up with another
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i'm gonna i'm going to borrow another
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machine from joe
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and then after that
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let's so so let's come up with another
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uh
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think about what we're going to get on
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the channel okay because uh
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let's see giames df64 is better or
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so that's kind of like
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very debatable i mean debate question on
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youtube right now which grinder is
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better df-64 or niche grinder
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it depends okay if you guys are like the
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flapper grinder versus conical grinder
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these all depend on you uh
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i mean niche is a lot more
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refined okay niche is a lot more refined
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and df64 is more little rough on the
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edge let's put it away
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a little rough on the edge but
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the df64 is about 450 bucks shipped from
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uh i think uh you can get it from
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espresso outlet for like 450 shipped
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but with a niche you're looking around
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about 700 bucks 720
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and i know we have a lot of comparison
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like you know if you like apple if you
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like you know niche grinder
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the android
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you got the df60 because the s64 you can
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do a lot of
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uh modification so
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let's see here
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uh
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let's you've got uh they offer yep hans
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mentioned about that they offer a
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different you know flavor profile as
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well the obviously flapper versus
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conical burr
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yeah
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and the harsh mention how is the android
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related to the f6 the f64
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i mean the you know
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you can modify okay let's put it that
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way and like android you can you know
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modify
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better than
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uh your mac i mean the os okay ios for
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sure so
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but if you can manage it have both okay
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just like hans say
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get both
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all right americans say flapper can
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sometimes give you a more
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powdery flavor okay
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and then let's see what else i'm looking
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at your questions
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i think we are pretty good this uh this
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afternoon okay so
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hopefully i'm going to uh i'm going to
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be talking to joe preson from espresso
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ios so
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i love i don't know i mean i i do like
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to get a uh
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ask him to lend us okay
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barrow
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the little bianca
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because i i be i think the lilac bianca
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has all the
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the components that i'm looking for like
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rory pump
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dual boiler
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you got that pid
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and the floor control okay
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and then the flip side is
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i have the quick mirror at home right
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now on the the trainer
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dual boiler they have everything but the
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floor control but you can
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also add the flow control top of that as
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well so that's optional too
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okay
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let's see
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and the melbourne thinks that i think i
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like the
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i'm gonna keep the bianca okay
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uh it's a cooker for coffee who and have
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you changed the d clumper on the f64
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uh not yet i'm going to though because i
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do have uh eruato premiere the 3d print
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so i think i'm my
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i think so when i do all the
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modification on my df64
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and then we might do that as well
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okay oh we got a shout out to ander from
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denmark electric electric
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electric nina okay
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and marvin said ssp bird say yes
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marvin as you can see
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i do have ss people here okay
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you know i have to say ssp birds
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looks really cool
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okay this is it
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very sharp
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so this is the multi-purpose so it's
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good for espresso and also pour over
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even french press so this thing is
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extremely sharp it looks really nice
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so i'm going to be upgrading the you
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know some point
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and then what else there oh yes i know
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you guys are asking me to
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play with the overpressure valve on
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bravo breeze express
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so i think i might do that okay i think
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i might do the coming weeks
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okay
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i might do the coming weeks there and
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there
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and i'm playing on actually i'm i'm
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going to do the uh edited video so i can
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show you guys a step by step how to do
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it okay
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by the way if you if you got just got
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the machine recently
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because uh you should have 12 months
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warranty on your machine so
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if you have a warranty on your machine
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do not mess with it
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but
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if you don't have a warranties anymore
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okay
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and if you are pretty handy
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make sure check out the video
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and
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make sure hopefully you guys can figure
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it out okay
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and uh okay flow control okay is the
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document say opp mass and flow control
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huh
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can you take the flow control on
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uh bravo bristol express says the
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modification i'm not i know we can do
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the over overpressure valve change the
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control on the pressure but
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because a pro rubber booster pro they're
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set at between six and eight bars
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and but with express
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they manufacture uh
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about 14 bar machine so
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let's see
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uh cuckoo for coffee yeah five months
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old yeah no don't yeah don't mess with
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it okay
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you know wait about a year or so
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okay marvin say you will need to
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re-route hot water or steam nah
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i don't think i'm i'm not gonna do that
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i'm just gonna play with the
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overpressure valve there
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okay i think
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make sure press like on the video okay
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press like on the video i think again i
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think we reached a goal of 1000
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so
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i'm going to be pitching my uh i'm gonna
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pitch my own money i'm gonna
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uh
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a thousand for myself and also hopefully
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get some kind of sponsorship or discount
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heavy discount from
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talk to joe okay hopefully joe can hook
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us up so we're going to get about the 3
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000
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coffee machine i mean i mean that's
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pretty good price
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yeah yeah it'd be pretty good
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i think if you spent about
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three grand
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but you know what let's be honest okay
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spending three grand is a lot of money
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on anything my first car cost me 500 so
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yeah
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i drove that tire until last year
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actually about two years ago
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yeah
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because not only you have to buy
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machine you have to buy grinder too so
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you have to buy the grinder you have to
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buy the tools top of that so it's not
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three grand it's more like four thousand
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dollars
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four maybe 45
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could be five thousand who knows
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all right let's see here we got uh
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melvin say less caramel more steel okay
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anyway i think we are pretty good this
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afternoon okay it's about 4 15 right now
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is it a late session but
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uh again if you guys thinking about
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buying df64
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i have plenty of videos on that as well
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and then let's what else uh make sure if
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you guys want to buy make sure to
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support the espresso outlet gel uh you
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can get i think you can get uh with a
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ship
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like 450 or 475 okay it's gonna be under
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500
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okay
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and then make sure
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joey is pretty small you know smaller uh
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outfit and great guy
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yeah i think hopefully
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let's see here
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i had to say we need a more grinder okay
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well what i'm gonna do is
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uh let's jump into instagram okay and
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then i can show you guys show us your
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coffee bar setup if you guys have it
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uh if now we can cheat shaft a little
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bit okay i'm going to see you on
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instagram